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The “Transsexual” Delusion

January 9, 2011

The word “transsexual” implies that the person is in process of or has made a transition between the two sexes. It is impossible, however, to transition from one sex to the other. The only transition possible for a person who believes that he or she is “transsexual” is from a whole person to a person with a mutilated body.

Transsexuality is presented as the conviction that one has been born into the wrong body – that while the body is one sex, the brain is the other. It follows that this “mistake” can be corrected with surgery and hormones, so that the “transsexual” person can live as a member of the desired sex rather than his or her birth sex. Since there is no scientific evidence to back up the belief a person’s body can be one sex and their brain the other, transsexuality may be characterized as a delusion. The general criteria for a delusion are:

  • certainty (it is held with absolute conviction);
  • incorrigibility (it is not changeable by compelling counterargument or proof to the contrary);
  • impossibility or falsity of content (the belief is implausible, bizarre or patently untrue).

The transsexual delusion (TD) leads to sexual identity dysphoria – a profound unhappiness with the biological reality. Transsexuals insist since that they can’t change their brain, the only way to alleviate their dysphoria is to surgically alter their bodies. They become obsessed with the idea of surgery and are willing to make tremendous sacrifices in order to obtain this solution – including alienation from family, loss of career, substantial expenses, and considerable pain. Given our knowledge of neural plasticity, it is certainly possible that the brain could be altered to relieve much of the dysphoria associated with the transsexual delusion, however, persons experiencing a transsexual delusion generally resist therapy. The availability of surgery convinces them that their perception of reality is true and that all they need to do is to persevere.  They become extremely anxious when their desire for surgery is delayed or frustrated. They can become angry to the point of narcissistic rage when their delusion is challenged, as illustrated by the vicious attacks by surgically altered men on J. Michael Bailey, author of The Man Who Would Be Queen.[1]

Delusions are often encapsulated, that is they affect only one part of life. The rest of the persons’ lives and their ability to think logically may not be affected, although eventually the delusion may lead them to make tremendous sacrifices to sustain their view of reality.

Is the belief that one was born in the wrong body implausible or patently untrue? Yes.

  1. Every cell of the body of a person claiming to be “transsexual” contains DNA that is clearly marked male or female. The DNA in the brain is the same as the DNA in the rest of the body. The transsexual community has tried to associate its claim to have been born in the wrong body with the situation of persons with genetic disorders and Sexual Development Disorders, however, persons claiming to be transsexual are virtually always genetically and physical healthy, normal males or females.
  2. There is no evidence of a genetic cause for the transsexual desires. There are reported cases of identical twins where one was transsexual and the other wasn’t. The hormones that trigger the development of the sexual organs also affect the brain and create subtle but real differences between the sexes. There is no evidence for “prenatal hormones affected the brain but not the body” theory.
  3. While transsexuals insist that they have the brains of their desired sex, in fact many of their behaviors resemble their actual sex. For example, the sexual activity pattern of transsexuals with same-sex attraction (SSA) is similar to that of other men with SSA – the desire for many partners and willingness to engage in anonymous and uncommitted sexual relationships. Another type of transsexuality — autogynephilia, (a man who is in love with the image of himself as a woman) — is categorized as a paraphilia. Paraphilias are found predominantly in males.  In addition, autogynephilias are predominantly attracted to women, and some insist that they are lesbians, when the more obvious explanation is that they are men who have retained their masculine attraction to women, even though they have been surgically altered to resemble women.
  4. Male transsexuals have a stereotyped and inaccurate understanding of what it means to be a woman.
  5. SSA transsexuals insist that have always felt like the other sex. While the feelings of alienation from the actual birth sex may have begun in early child, this can be explained by interactions between the child and family members. Small boys who are considered effeminate or girlish do not, in fact, resemble girls of the same age. For example, girls have expansive interests and are capable of wearing dresses or jeans, playing with dolls or in the sandbox, playing games outside or inside. In contrast to this, these “girlish” boys are uncomfortable with boyish clothing, rough-and-tumble play, and in general limited in their range of activities. In addiction, many of these boys have other psychological problems.
  6. Surgery does not change a person’s sex. Surgeons can simulate the appearance of the external sexual organs of the other sex, but they cannot make the simulated organs reproductively functional.
  7. Surgery destroys the possibility of future fertility. The willingness to surrender one’s potential fertility as though it were nothing points to the power of the transsexual delusion.
  8. The transsexual delusion is a denial of the unity of the human person.
  9. The surgical solution may be a fad, comparable to psychiatry’s embrace of frontal lobotomies or raising genetic boys with genital deformities as girls. This too may in time be recognized as unethical mutilation. There has already been a change in attitudes among “sexual minorities” even in the last decade. Many teenagers who are confused about sexual identity and attractions are choosing to be identify as “Gender Queer.” Rejecting identification as one sex or the other, they move between the sexes or present themselves as something in between. It is difficult to say what they will choose when they grow up, but it is possible that as sexual stereotypes become less pervasive, surgery may become as less popular. Partial solutions (that is, women who do undergo breast removal or hysterectomies but do not choose to have a pseudo penis and testicles, or men who have breast implants but retain their genitals) are also becoming more popular.

Persons suffering from TD are very unhappy if their desire for a surgical solution is delayed or denied. They may become depressed or suicidal or take the matter into their own hands, obtaining hormones on the black market and even resorting to self-mutilation. The supporters of the surgical solution argue that since there is no treatment for this disorder (which may be because no one is looking for a treatment, or because persons with TD resist therapeutic assistance) the only solution is to grant their desire for surgery.

One of the problems is that as the surgical solution is publicized more, people are deciding that they are “transsexual” and requesting surgery. The transsexual delusion may in fact be “contagious.” A number of transsexuals say that they hadn’t “realized that they were trapped in the wrong body until they saw a TV program with a positive portrayal of a person who claimed to have changed sex.”

Persons with TD are very eager to “pass” as their desired sex — that is deceive others into accepting them as members of the other sex. They may insist that others participate in their delusion. They are deeply offended when people refuse to acknowledge their “change” and want laws enacted that would force people to accept them as their desired sex.

It is important to note that not all persons seeking sexual surgery suffer from a transsexual delusion. Guidelines were set up by The World Professional Association for Transgender Health to sort out “true transsexuals” from those who didn’t believe they were trapped n the wrong body. According to the guidelines “true” transsexuals had:

  1. cross-gender identifications that were consistently expressed behaviorally in childhood, adolescence, and adulthood;
  2. minimal or no sexual arousal to cross-dressing;
  3. no heterosexual interest, relative to their anatomic sex.[2]

However, the Association has altered this criterion because according to their Standards of Care:

  • Belief in the true transsexual concept for males dissipated when it was realized that such patients were rarely encountered, and that some of the original true transsexuals had falsified their histories to make their stories match the earliest theories about the disorder.
  • Since there is no biological test for “transsexuality,” and since acceptance into a surgical program is based on what the clients tell the therapists and surgeons, clients may say what they think the therapists want to hear in order to gain acceptance into the program.
  • If some men seeking surgical intervention in order to appear as women don’t believe in their heart of hearts that they are women trapped in men’s bodies but only say they are because that is what they are convinced the gatekeepers to the process want to hear, then why do they seek a surgical solution.

Their reasons vary according to the category of sexual dysphoria. Anne Lawrence, a post-surgery autogynephile, described autogynephiles as “men trapped in men’s bodies.”[3] Lawrence admits that some autogynephiles “knew we were male anatomically, who were not outwardly feminine and sometimes had to work rather hard to appear feminine, yet who intensely wanted to be women.” Lawrence believes that the autogynephiles desire for surgery springs from a “romantic” desire to become what they love. They love women and therefore want to become women[4]but fear that therapists and surgeons might not give approval for surgery if they believed they were helping a man act out his “paraphilic sexual script.”[5]

The men with SSA seeking surgery have been described by Dr. Paul McHugh, psychiatrist-in-chief at Johns Hopkins, as

conflicted and guilt-ridden homosexual men who saw a sex-change as a way to resolve their conflicts over homosexuality by allowing them to behave sexually as females with males.[6]

The insistence that one is transsexual may be a push/pull. A man seeking surgery may feel pushed from masculine identification by rejection he experienced as a boy because of his fear of rough-and-tumble play and pulled toward female identification by his desire for such things as beautiful clothes, which he believes are available only to women. A woman seeking surgery may feel pushed away from attraction to men by fear of male violence or abuse. She may believe that being a woman is being vulnerable. At the same time she may be pulled by the power and privileges associated with males in our culture. While these feelings are very real, the solution is not to pretend that it is possible to “change” one’s sex through surgery.

Surgery is generally preceded by the administration of hormone. Hormones do have an affect on personality. Females taking male hormones may experience a testosterone high. Men taking female hormones may experience a lessening of compulsive sexual desire. Those seeking surgery may hope that the surgery will increase what they regard as positive changes gained from the hormone treatments.

The desire to be the other sex is a symptom of one of several mental disorders and should be treated as such, because according to Dr. Paul McHugh — who oversaw the termination of the transsexual surgical program at his hospital — notes, providing surgery is “collaborating with madness rather than trying to study, cure, and ultimately prevent it.”


[1] Alice Dreger (2008) “The controversy surrounding The Man Who Would be Queen: A case history of the politics of science, identity, and sex in the internet age,” Archives of Sexual Behavior, 37, pp. 366-421; Anne Lawrence, (2008) “Shame and Narcissistic rage in autogynephilic transsexualism,” Archives of Sexual Behavior, 37, pp. 457-461.

[2] Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association’s Standards Of Care For Gender Identity Disorders The, Sixth Version February, 2001

[3] Anne Lawrence (2008) “Men trapped in men’s bodies”: An introduction to the concept of autogynephilia,” http://home.swipnet.se/

[4] Anne Lawrence, (2007) “Becoming what we love: Autogynephilic transsexualism conceptualized as an expression of romantic love,’ Perspective in Biology and Medicine, 50 (4): pp 506-520.

[5] Op cite, Lawrence (2008)

[6] Paul McHugh (2004) “Surgical Sex,” First Things, Nov. pp. 34-38.

82 Comments leave one →
  1. March 19, 2011 2:02 am

    INTERESTING READ…..ALL THOUGH I DISAGREE……. THANK FOR GIVING ME ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE OF HOW PEOPLE THINK ABOUT TRANSSEXUALS….

    • February 17, 2017 2:00 pm

      Enlighten us. In what way do you “disagree” with the presented facts?

      • February 20, 2017 2:42 pm

        The fact is that sex is determined at birth, xx/xy. A tiny number of people suffer from disorders of sexual development. They don’t want to change their sex, but discover the truth. No one can change their sex. Envying the other sex is a problem to be treated. It is not loving to lie to people with psychological disorders or support delusions.

  2. March 20, 2011 12:59 am

    Wow…Im transgender “female” myself, a very beautiful one at that. And I completely agree with this article. It makes a lot of sense. A very progressive way of looking at things.

  3. H Douglass Brown permalink
    March 22, 2011 5:26 pm

    This was a very interesting article and conclusion.

  4. Ginger Dawn Seaboyer permalink
    March 22, 2011 8:51 pm

    utter complete nonsense..i am so glad i live in a more enlightened society..and thats rural atlantic canada..lol..i am ts..ive known since i was 3 or 4 years old i was a girl..its not a choice..t has nothing to do with sex..its what gender i know i am ..and ive always known..as far as choice leave that for the cd fetish and drag queen impersonations

    • Faith permalink
      June 14, 2015 2:22 pm

      You only think that because you exchanged the truth for a lie . The devil got you convinced that you were a girl in a mans body and since then you’ve believed it . God doesn’t accidentally put the wrong soul into people’s bodies.

      • lisa permalink
        June 26, 2015 12:13 pm

        Don’t bring religion into it. That’s another delusion.

      • Lila permalink
        July 14, 2015 7:31 pm

        Weird intersex conditions exist, people affected in the womb by hormones that micic the effects of hormones of the other gender (like some anti miscarriage medicines, like Progestin or DES) can be born into a continuum of sex phenotype which ranges from “female with larger clitoris” to “male with no testes”, so why is it so hard to accept some people are born with a brain of a part of their brain that does not match the rest of their sex? Only the part of the brain which affects the self identity has to be of the other sex to get a person who identifies as transgender.

      • July 15, 2015 12:22 am

        Those who claim to be transgendered have long attempted to merge their condition with that of persons with disorders of sexual development. Of course, the first thing persons who think they may be transgendered should do is be medically examined. In almost every case, they are physically normal. The same hormones that create a male or female body also circulate in the brain. Male body, male brain. Wanting to be a woman is not the same as being a woman. I know it must cause them grief to realize that they cannot achieve their objective, but better that knowledge come before rather than after they have sacrificed irreplaceable body parts on a hopeless quest.

      • zoebrain permalink
        July 15, 2015 1:52 am

        Of course, the first thing persons who think they may be transgendered should do is be medically examined. In almost every case, they are physically normal.

        9 times in 10, anyway, to a simple external exam. Not exactly “almost every case”, but the great majority, yes.

        The same hormones that create a male or female body also circulate in the brain. Male body, male brain.

        It’s all in the timing – that’s what you don’t get. During foetal development, you can (rarely) have a male hormonal environment at one stage, female at another. This is most obvious in a number of Intersex conditions.

        This explains in more detail:

        Sexual Hormones and the Brain: An Essential Alliance for Sexual Identity and Sexual Orientation Garcia-Falgueras A, Swaab DF Endocr Dev. 2010;17:22-35

        The fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. However, since sexual differentiation of the genitals takes place in the first two months of pregnancy and sexual differentiation of the brain starts in the second half of pregnancy, these two processes can be influenced independently, which may result in extreme cases in trans-sexuality. This also means that in the event of ambiguous sex at birth, the degree of masculinization of the genitals may not reflect the degree of masculinization of the brain. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation.

      • June 13, 2016 1:19 am

        Lord Willing, you don’t get to choose a person’s gender or sex! nor do i! nor do they! tis God, Lord Willing, even if due to the fall or otherwise, His Own Glory Be Known! their pathway to achieve it may be “conventional” or may be transition/otherwise

        transmen are men, transwomen are women. chromosomes aren’t a tell all end all for sex determination, and other physiological factors can be addressed, Lord Willing, thanks and thank God

        http://BIble.cc For God So Loved the world He Gave HIs Only Son

    • July 21, 2016 7:04 pm

      @zoebrain

      Hormones may influence identity, but hormones do not make identity. In fact, we have both hormone levels anyway. Regardless, hormones are not necessarily the determining factor of our sexual identification. Neither are chromosomes. It is our sexual organs and function, hence why it is called “the sexes”. Males’ bodies function to prepare for the procreative process of giving sperm. Their organs shoot out testosterone to the brain as they prepare. Females’ bodies prepare them to carry and give birth. Estrogen is shot from the sex organs to the brain.

      Brains do not have a sex…that is why it is possible to take once cell of a male brain and place it in the brain of a female and she will still function as a female. To say that brains have a sex is like saying the brains has a penis or vagina. Yes, the brain is influenced by hormones, but it is the sex organs that give off certain hormones in preparation.

      • zoebrain permalink
        July 22, 2016 11:33 pm

        “Brains do not have a sex…”

        A sex difference in the human brain and its relation to transsexuality. by Zhou et al Nature (1995) 378:68–70.
        Our study is the first to show a female brain structure in genetically male transsexuals..

        Male–to–female transsexuals have female neuron numbers in a limbic nucleus. Kruiver et al J Clin Endocrinol Metab (2000) 85:2034–2041
        The present findings of somatostatin neuronal sex differences in the BSTc and its sex reversal in the transsexual brain clearly support the paradigm that in transsexuals sexual differentiation of the brain and genitals may go into opposite directions

        “Yes, the brain is influenced by hormones,”

        To some degree that’s true. But the basic pattern is formed by hormonal environment before birth. Thereafter, the influence is limited. Some sex-specific differences change, most do not.

        Changing your sex changes your brain: influences of testosterone and estrogen on adult human brain structure by Pol et al, Europ Jnl Endocrinology, Vol 155, suppl_1, S107-S114 2006

        Objective: Sex hormones are not only involved in the formation of reproductive organs, but also induce sexually-dimorphic brain development and organization. Cross-sex hormone administration to transsexuals provides a unique possibility to study the effects of sex steroids on brain morphology in young adulthood.

        Methods: Magnetic resonance brain images were made prior to, and during, cross-sex hormone treatment to study the influence of anti-androgen + estrogen treatment on brain morphology in eight young adult male-to-female transsexual human subjects and of androgen treatment in six female-to-male transsexuals.

        Results: Compared with controls, anti-androgen + estrogen treatment decreased brain volumes of male-to-female subjects towards female proportions, while androgen treatment in female-to-male subjects increased total brain and hypothalamus volumes towards male proportions.

        Conclusions: The findings suggest that, throughout life, gonadal hormones remain essential for maintaining aspects of sex-specific differences in the human brain.

      • August 14, 2016 6:28 pm

        The issue is your theory is flawed in the sense that you are trying to say that hormones MAKE gender identity…when that cannot be possible. How can we identify with something we have never experienced? Give me proof that people can identify with something from the time they are born. Hormones do not make identity. All humans have hormone exposure that is not typical of their sex. But that does not make us identify. Can it influence what our brain conceptualizes as our own identity? Possibly. But a person cannot identify with something unless they’ve experienced it in their environment.

        There have been people to counter your idea that the brain has a sex. http://neurosciencenews.com/neuroscience-brain-sex-4366/
        There are plenty other articles based off of research that have countered the argument of a sex brain. I will get back to you with more info when I have the time. I have gathered a collection of articles and books about the flawed theory behind brain sex.

      • zoebrain permalink
        August 20, 2016 10:59 pm

        “Give me proof that people can identify with something from the time they are born. ”

        I can give evidence that supports that, certainly. There’s plenty if it.

        Discordant Sexual Identity in Some Genetic Males with Cloacal Exstrophy Assigned to Female Sex at Birth by Reiner and Gearhart, N Engl J Med. 2004 January 22; 350(4): 333–341.

        RESULTS Eight of the 14 subjects assigned to female sex declared themselves male during the course of this study, whereas the 2 raised as males remained male. Subjects could be grouped according to their stated sexual identity. Five subjects were living as females; three were living with unclear sexual identity, although two of the three had declared themselves male; and eight were living as males, six of whom had reassigned themselves to male sex. All 16 subjects had moderate-to-marked interests and attitudes that were considered typical of males. Follow-up ranged from 34 to 98 months.
        CONCLUSIONS Routine neonatal assignment of genetic males to female sex because of severe phallic inadequacy can result in unpredictable sexual identification. Clinical interventions in such children should be reexamined in the light of these findings.

        If brain sex were malleable, then one would expect that most or all of the boys raised as girls, and surgically assigned a female sex, would not go through the traumatic and difficult process of transition.

        That is not in accordance with observations.

  5. April 13, 2011 12:05 pm

    Some of the “nonexistent” evidence for cross-sexed brains:
    http://aebrain.blogspot.com/p/reference-works-on-transsexual-and.html

    You’ll find a list of few hundred more papers on the issue at http://cs.anu.edu.au/~Zoe.Brain/BGI%20REF%203.pdf

    • April 13, 2011 1:18 pm

      The evidence of neuroplasticity is overwhelming. Early insecure attachment, separation anxiety, a lifetime of fantasy and resentment will change your brain. My argument is that it doesn’t change a male brain into a female brain. Nothing in the testimony of men who claim to have women’s brains sounds like a real woman.

      • April 13, 2011 2:23 pm

        Neuroplasticity affects neither the proportion of cells of any particular type, nor the lymbic nucleus. The cerebral cortex is definitely plastic, and long-term memories are physically laid down in it via the hippocampus. PTSD causes detectable changes in the physical structure of the brain, as does puberty, schizophrenia etc.

        But the hindbrain, the area that controls heartbeat and determines sex identity, the development pattern of that’s set in concrete, as far as we can tell.

        Dale, may I ask you to look at this court case? Is this person male or female?

        Click to access 2010_FamCA_237.pdf

        Thanks for opening a dialogue with me over this.

  6. Lynne permalink
    September 14, 2011 1:58 am

    Oh dear, here we go again… What seems to be PATENTLY MISSING in articles such as these are examinations of SOCIETY. It is society (and culture) which reinforces the ‘strict’ gender (ex; sex) bipolarity and subsequent ‘rules’ thereof.

    While it is a fact of biology that one cannot alter one’s DNA or have fully functional opposite-sex reproductive systems (in that there really ISN’T such a thing as a true ‘sex-change’), is it really that much different from people suffering from such things as CAIS (Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome), pseudohermaphrodism, a chimera (XX/XY ‘mosaic’, etc)??? Are THEY truly ‘sex-changed’??? If a CAIS person is DNA XY, yet fails to respond to the testosterone ‘wash’ in fetal development and develops anatomically ‘female’, do we say it’s a boy or a girl??? (And subsequently ‘force’ societal ‘rules’ upon said person??) And then what is the ‘treatment’ for these people???

    My own view is that it is society itself which ironically CAUSES much of the issue. If a greater ‘scope’ of ‘gender’ and ‘gender expression’ were in existence, I am curious as to what degree ‘gender dysphoria’ would result within such an environment.

    • June 3, 2015 7:05 am

      I couldn’t agree with you more. In this day & age when it’s considered un-PC to challenge gender identity, or ask society to consider its responsibility for issues relating to same, it’s really refreshing to come across your point of view.

  7. George in Myakka permalink
    January 3, 2012 12:48 am

    Mutilating themselves render them incapable of reproduction….hummmmm. So whats the problema?

    • January 3, 2012 4:28 am

      We must love these souls more than they love themselves. We should feel the same about those who desire mutilation the same way we do about a potential suicide and do all we can to stop them from such rash action.

      • January 3, 2012 6:04 am

        “Every cell of the body of a person claiming to be “transsexual” contains DNA that is clearly marked male or female. The DNA in the brain is the same as the DNA in the rest of the body. ”

        Except that 1 in 300 males don’t have the XY chromosomes most men do. And some women are XY – they have “make DNA” by the definition used by the author.

        Example:
        “A 46,XY mother who developed as a normal woman underwent spontaneous puberty, reached menarche, menstruated regularly, experienced two unassisted pregnancies, and gave birth to a 46,XY daughter with complete gonadal dysgenesis.” — J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2008 Jan;93(1):182-9.

      • January 3, 2012 2:02 pm

        Those pushing the “Transsexual delusion” try to equate the desire to change sex with the condition of persons with disorders of sexual development or genetic anomalies. The first thing any medical professional should do when a person presents with a desire to change sex is to check for these problems. Those who want a sex change are almost without exception genetically normal males or females.

      • January 3, 2012 2:51 pm

        “The first thing any medical professional should do when a person presents with a desire to change sex is to check for these problems. ”

        CORRECT! That’s what *should* happen. But while the problem is seen as a psychiatric one, that very rarely happens. Only when something weird like a natural sex change is evidenced is it routine.

        We’re trying to get that changed, to have a complete karyotype and endocrine assay done for all patients, as is supposed to happen. Trouble is, it costs. Worse, discovery of an Intersex condition means a diagnosis of Gender Identity Disorder is excluded, so treatment may be halted.

        “. Those who want a sex change are almost without exception genetically normal males or females.”

        Genetically may be, I don’t have the data there. Given that 1 in 300 men aren’t XY, I doubt it’s correct, though I’ll admit the possibility. But anatomically? Hardly.

        One in ten are Intersex, according to the surgeons. They’ve got to be prepared for some little anatomical surprises, and they’re not too happy about it as it can complicate the procedure.
        .

      • Kelli permalink
        May 8, 2015 6:59 am

        I love myself. I am not hurting anyone or myself. I see it as a rearranging. It’s not comparable to a suicide. Even if you don’t believe that there is a genetic marker, then it would be a lifestyle choice. People make those choices every day and are not compared to suicidal people.

        Even with Xy my genes are totally capable of expressing secondary female characteristics. So this expression is natural in the right bath of hormones. From a functional standpoint, that’s all one needs in this society because no one is going to see what is between your legs, inside your stomach, or inside your genes.

        The other procedures like FFS just erase the effects of testosterone on the bony structures which cannot be done with hormones alone. Same with electrolysis. Introduction of Testosterone produces permanent changes at puberty that cannot be undone.

        If one knew they were transgender from an early age (controversial and i understand that) they could avoid the progression of secondary characteristics they are hoping to avoid. This has been seen in many young transexuals.

  8. Roman permalink
    May 17, 2013 12:16 am

    I highly doubt that gender “dysphoria” is innate. I’m not saying they shouldn’t be able to identify however makes them feel happy, but granting them special rights is ridiculous. I’m going to try making an argument and explain my own theories. You are only human in relation to other humans. By this I mean, your brain may not have the concept of your humanity hardwired in but it does have mechanisms for reacting to other humans as their is a genetic similarity. A sperm cell is a sperm cell and an egg cell is an egg cell. Any sperm cell can fertilize any egg cell because they are physically compatible. The main difference is a human’s sperm cell can’t recombine successfully with a frog’s egg cell. This is due to genetic differences within the cell. So even though there is no hardwired concept of “womanhood,” the human body can still react physically to matter that emanate’s from female humans.

    Most if not every material phenomena can be explained by physical means. For example female humans tend to lean differently than men. Why is this? It’s because of their body’s center gravity, of course. It’s perfectly acceptable that simple movements can be explained by neural anatomy. Complex patterns can also be explained physically by the structure of the brain. The whole bit about “female neuron numbers” doesn’t make much sense to me. I don’t see how this could cause the brain to identify with something which is not innate to biology/universe/etcetera – something which is an acquired construct. The mental aspect of being female is almost definitely acquired. I would go with either a) the neuron numbers are caused by mental behavior which one may associate with femininity – not my first pick. Then there is b) this phenomenon occurs in normal men as well, just a small population. Transpeople are a self selecting part of the transgender brain studies. The studies are done with them in mind, of course. I am aware that they have studied homosexuals, but homosexuality in my opinion is caused by the genetic expression of sex pheromone receptors. As such it has nothing to do with gender – it is completely sexual.

    One theory as to how this phenomenon occurs is that due to feminine brain structure (completely physical, it has nothing to do with gender identity,) the individual exhibits objectively feminine behavior. As most people with feminine brains happen to be female, this individual subconsciously observes the similarity between the cisperson and develops a mental connection. There is a technique for getting people to connect with you that works as such. So I’m not saying they don’t have rights, I’m merely saying that it is not the innate phenomenon as it is quite often made out to be. So it is my opinion that there are inherent differences between transpeople and cispeople. I therefore am of the opinion that it is perfectly fine for a man or woman to not want to have intimate relations with such a person based on those reasons alone. It’s not discrimination, some people just don’t want to be with someone who at least used to be the same sex as them. So even if a transgender individual happened to completely and objectively change their physical sex, no one should be pushed into a relationship for fear of being labeled “transphobic” or “ignorant” or whatever reason there may be.

    • zoebrain permalink
      May 18, 2013 9:24 am

      “The whole bit about “female neuron numbers” doesn’t make much sense to me. I don’t see how this could cause the brain to identify with something which is not innate to biology/universe/etcetera – something which is an acquired construct. ”

      Insightful. That’s explained in the following paper:

      Biased-Interaction Theory of Psychosexual Development: “How Does One Know if One is Male or Female?” M.Diamond Sex Roles (2006) 55:589–600

      A theory of gender development is presented that incorporates early biological factors that organize predispositions in temperament and attitudes. With activation of these factors a person interacts in society and comes to identify as male or female. The predispositions establish preferences and aversions the growing child compares with those of others. All individuals compare themselves with others deciding who they are like (same) and with whom are they different. These experiences and interpretations can then be said to determine how one comes to identify as male or female, man or woman. In retrospect, one can say the person has a gendered brain since it is the brain that structures the individual’s basic personality; first with inherent tendencies then with interactions coming from experience.

      • Kim permalink
        May 19, 2013 1:32 pm

        zoebrain,

        Not understanding the limbic system and not knowing why this is an important finding is an honest answer. Let me help you. The limbic system comprises of the primary operating structures of the brain. It is made up of the Thalamus, Hypothalamus, Cingulate gyrus, Amygdala, Hippocampus and the Basal Ganglia.

        Thalamus – The thalamus is called the gateway to the cerebral cortex, as nearly all sensory inputs pass through it to the higher levels of the brain.

        Hypothalamus – The hypothalamus sits under the thalamus at the top of the brainstem. Although the hypothalamus is small, it controls many critical bodily functions: Controls autonomic nervous system Center for emotional response and behavior Regulates body temperature Regulates food intake Regulates water balance and thirst Controls sleep-wake cycles Controls endocrine system. The hypothalamus in those born with the transsexual medical condition has been found to be of similar size and shape of the gender they associate with. i.e. a male to female transsexual has a hypothalamus that resembles a female hypothalamus, not a male one.

        Cingulate Gyrus – The Cingulate (to surround) Gyrus (fold), is part of the cerebrum gray matter surrounding and directly connected to the parts of the inner Limbic System. The Cingulate Gyrus serves as a conduit of messages to and from the inner Limbic System.

        Hippocampus – The Hippocampus is very important in the transition of information from short to long term memory, Since the Hippocampus is also part of the Temporal Lobe, damage to that portion of the brain can result in a loss of memory.

        Basal Ganglia – The Basal Ganglia play an important role in planning and coordinating motor movements and posture. Complex neural connections link the Basal Ganglia with the Cerebral Cortex.

        Due to having the limbic structures feminized or masculinized through anomalous means, those born with the transsexual medical condition are truly women living in men’s bodies and men living in women’s bodies. It is not what is between the legs, but what is between ears that makes you who you are.

        Crossdressers who wear women’s clothes for fetish reasons and drag queens who are usually no more than stage performers with no transsexual or transgender traits are the reason this matter is so confusing. Because of them, this has moved from a medical topic as it should be to a social agenda platform. Those like myself have been trying to pry ourselves from the LBGTI movement as it has nothing to do with a rare medical condition and is causing confusion. Forums such as this one prove that the radical propaganda is currently the way those born with the transsexual medical condition are seen. I ask that you separate a transsexual man or woman from any other “transgender umbrella” category. All we want is to be happy and successful. If we had any other kind of genetic anomaly medical condition, we would find support. Because ours involves gender it becomes scary.

        There is a lot of talk about “choosing” to live this way. We didn’t choose anything. I am not pretending or play acting with a secret agenda. I am more fortunate than most. My body is feminine. Short height, feminine face, small hands, small feet, soft voice, no Adam’s apple, wide hips with a 36 inch chest. I also have ovaries.

        Some who are born with the transsexual medical condition are less fortunate and have large male bodies that will never be seen as female or female bodies that cannot resemble male. This doesn’t make them less transsexual, or less of a human being.
        There are many books and articles written about people born transsexual. Some are quite good and others are filled with inaccuracies. At one time, people thought the world was round and the sun revolved around the earth. Evidence to the contrary was met with ridicule because people chose to ignore the truth and hold tight to prior beliefs. I am presenting evidence to the contrary. The difference between those who wrote those articles and books is they weren’t born this way. I was.

        ~Kim

        http://its.sdsu.edu/multimedia/mathison/limbic/

      • May 20, 2013 1:50 am

        Kim – the only area where I’d disagree – and there only partially – is in dividing lines.

        Because this is an anatomical and biological issue, and biology and anatomy is fuzzy and messy and only mostly-binary, the issue is fuzzy too.

        Consider:

        Sexual differentiation of the human brain in relation to gender identity and sexual orientation D.Swaab & A.Garcia-Fulgaras Functional Neurology, Jan-Mar 2009:
        — One person we studied had untreated male gender dysphoria (S7), took no hormones and kept his transsexual feelings under wraps. He appeared to have a large INAH3 volume – in the male range – but a female INAH3 number of neurons (68) and a female BSTc somatostatin neuron number (95). Hence, this individual’s hypothalamic characteristics were mid-way between male and female values —

        >> Due to having the limbic structures feminized or masculinized through anomalous means, those born with the transsexual medical condition are truly women living in men’s bodies and men living in women’s bodies. It is not what is between the legs, but what is between ears that makes you who you are. <<

        I agree completely there, the evidence is overwhelming. This statement should be as uncontroversial as "the Earth rotates".

        Where I *think* that's not quite the whole story is with those not obviously Transsexual, but Transgender. There I think there may be a lesser degree of cross-sexing. But there's nowhere near enough evidence to say that this is true, only that it's not impossible, and there's some evidence for it.

      • Kim permalink
        May 21, 2013 5:57 am

        Yes, there are those who are unsure and perhaps confused about who the are and believe they are transsexual. Myself and others have been working to separate those with the transsexual medical condition from those who are crossdressers and gender queer who are all herded together under the dreaded transgender umbrella.

      • May 21, 2013 7:32 am

        Misdiagnosis is something we have to be careful of, that’s certain.

        Unless the SPL is affected, surgery isn’t needed, so should be discouraged.
        Unfortunately, our best diagnostic test for that is still self-reporting.

        Discourage surgery too much, and patients die. Too little, and we get post-op regret. At some point, we have to treat patients as responsible adults.

        In a legal sense, there is far too much pressure put on to get surgery, even if not needed, just to get documentation changed. Society forces our hand there, there are very significant concerns about someone, anyone, having unexpected genitalia. Again though, Intersex people often do have that, and no-one should be coerced into having genital reconstruction just to lessen the discomfort of others.

        From a practical view of enforcement, as an example, no woman should be forbidden from using a female restroom just for not being pretty enough. So we have to relax requirements based on appearance, but what else is there? The majority of Trans people can’t afford the years-long process of getting psych assessments, “carry letters” and so on, and they have no legal force anyway. Bigots ignore them, others don’t care – live and let live.

        >>Myself and others have been working to separate those with the transsexual medical condition from those who are crossdressers and gender queer who are all herded together under the dreaded transgender umbrella.<<

        I'm not exactly thrilled with the situation of "herding" (as you put it) many completely different groups, from Intersex and Transsexual through to "political lesbians" and Queer-as-a-political-statement people together.

        From a legal standpoint, and to society at large, they are indistinguishable though, no matter what the biology says. I don't feel morally comfortable either with encouraging the persecution of others, even those that I don't identify with, and who give me the creeps. At least partly because I give some people the creeps too, just because I have CAH from 3BHSD syndrome and am thus Intersex.

        I cannot in all conscience demand equality for myself, without demanding it for other, completely different people too. Even the crossdressers and gender queers.

      • Kim permalink
        May 21, 2013 1:34 pm

        Each separate group faces their own barriers that they must overcome. For gay and lesbian, it’s more of social equality such as marriage rights. They are making progress in this. For transsexuals (and inter-sex) it’s far more complicated. A transsexual woman (born in a male body) still needs a prostate exam as well as breast exams. A transsexual man may now have a beard or mustache and still need to see a gynecologist. Both need to use restrooms based on their new gender even if they haven’t had surgery. Others who are gender neutral or gender queer as they often refer to themselves as, still have needs to allow them to be successful and happy as human beings. Each group as a whole has sub groups. A transsexual woman (born in a male body) might still be attracted to women. This makes her lesbian. Prior to transitioning, a transsexual woman who is attracted to men is a gay male, after transitioning, she is a straight woman. Yes, it’s very complicated.

        I am fortunate that I was born with a small female body. My own transitioning has been a marvelous adventure of re-discovery of who I am and my children have seen how happy I am now as opposed to how miserable I was before. I could easily go stealth and as I am indistinguishable from any other woman, I could just go about living my own life and ignore those who were less blessed than I. Instead I talk about it. I answer people’s questions and share my own experiences. But each day when I step into the world, I risk meeting that one individual who possesses hatred and bigotry enough to batter or even kill me. I can’t let those fears rule me, so I suppress them. Transgender, no matter where they fall in the spectrum are some of the most courageous people you will ever meet.

      • May 22, 2013 5:25 am

        The really courageous ones are those who refused to stop living a lie, and then, even though they could hide in plain sight, choose not to just to help others.

        I didn’t have the courage to transition of my own volition. OK, technically I’m Intersex, but effectively I was Transsexual – girl brain (mostly), boy body (mostly). It was only when the rest of the body started feminising that I transitioned. That’s the only real difference, not the biological stuff, I didn’t have the courage Transsexual women have.

        I’m not petite – large frame, 5′ 6″ height, I knew at age 10 I’d never win any beauty contests. But I don’t stand out, those who don’t know my history don’t suspect.

        However, the bodily changes were so rapid, with so many eye-witnesses, and I work in such a specialised close-knit profession that hiding was never an option. Not without giving up all I valued. When a colleague rapidly changes sex over a few months, it’s not something that doesn’t get noticed, or passes unremarked.

        So I try to help too, making a virtue out of necessity. Not because I’m brave, that’s for sure.

        >>I could easily go stealth and as I am indistinguishable from any other woman, I could just go about living my own life and ignore those who were less blessed than I. Instead I talk about it. I answer people’s questions and share my own experiences. But each day when I step into the world, I risk meeting that one individual who possesses hatred and bigotry enough to batter or even kill me. I can’t let those fears rule me, so I suppress them. <<

        We can't "pass by the wayside" can we? We are our brothers' and our sisters' keeper, even at the risk of our own lives. To those of us who have been blessed – be it with physical beauty, or just plain-jane unremarkability – to whom much has been given, much is expected.

    • Kelli permalink
      May 8, 2015 7:05 am

      I get part of what you are saying. Most males have a tougher time doing situps than females. Why? Their center of gravity is lower plus their torso is shorter and so levers better physically than a male. Try it.

      That said, males and females come in all shapes and sizes and those females with longer torsos may exhibit “male” tendancies too. Generally, we get assigned a gender expression from what most females or males in that situation do. I think a study of this may help males wishing to be more feminine in their mannerisms because their anatomy may prevent this as a natural expression.

    • Kelli permalink
      May 8, 2015 7:18 am

      I read this article and it’s pretty clear this person had been severely abused by her Mother. So much that she wanted to become a boy. The desire did not come from within. It came from her Mother who abused her. “If you had only been born a boy”. It’s a really sad story. There was little hope that this would be successful with so little support and severe mental illness given to this person. The primary story here is unrelenting child abuse, not transgender surgery.

  9. Roger permalink
    October 8, 2013 8:56 pm

    Thank god someone finally debunked the whole transgender identity myth. These people need mental health treatment under the direction of a psychiatrist. This mental disorder should not be promoted as cool and liberal to children and praised in the media as a new exciting fad or special identity. These mental patients deserve the same treatment available to other physcos like people with Bipolar/schizophrenia disorder (e.g. medicine to help control their delusions). We don’t go around glamorizing bipolar people and giving them special recognition simply because they are crazy do we? With the transsexuals we do. They have ridden the coattails of the homosexuals (another mental disorder at least until 1973 per APA definitions) and been given “the right” to live out their mental delusions with special protections granted under the law. Surgery should never be allowed (especially taxpayer funded) for these mental patients in order to live out delusional fantasies.

    Maybe the schizophrenics should demand “the right” to live out their delusions too so that they can protect themselves from Jesus trying to kill them with a meat cleaver delusion. My girlfriend works as a nurse so I hear these stories. Or the one when the paranoid schizophrenic tries to kill other people (friends, family, random strangers) because “the world is against them” delusion and no one can be trusted. Apparently, we are heading as a society in a direction where mental illness is treated as a cool cultural identity. The lunatics are now running the asylum!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • October 23, 2013 4:25 am

      “Thank god someone finally debunked the whole transgender identity myth. These people need mental health treatment under the direction of a psychiatrist. “

      Oh psychiatrists are involved from the start to ensure there’s no delusions involved – the consequences of misdiagnosis are unthinkable.

      But as for a “talking cure” – it doesn’t exist. One has been searched for for 60 years without success. Now that we know the cause is anatomical, we know why. It’s as unethical as trying to persuade an amputee to regrow a limb by using shock and aversive therapy – and just as fruitless.

      “Treatment aimed at trying to change a person’s gender identity and expression to become more congruent with sex assigned at birth has been attempted in the past without success (Gelder & Marks, 1969; Greenson, 1964), particularly in the long term (Cohen-Kettenis & Kuiper, 1984; Pauly, 1965). Such treatment is no longer considered ethical.” — Medical Standards of Care v7 2011

      A Trans boy is a boy. A Trans girl is a girl. No matter what you do to her, she will always have a female sense of smell and hearing, female instincts and emotional responses, a female personality. All products of the female anatomy of different parts of her brain.

      For those who insist that she “man up” and “be a boy” – what are you going to do about the feminine parts of her body that she was born with? Parts we have no idea how to change?

      We know that having mixed anatomy causes intractable psychological issues, and without treating the underlying cause, even symptomatic relief is impossible. It’s been tried and tried, leaving behind a trail of corpses and broken minds in its wake.

      Success has been claimed for some such treatments, but the definition of “success” here is questionable. Here’s a typical “success”, touted as such by the therapist as one of the best results they’ve ever had:

      “A 2008 study of 25 girls who had been seen in Zucker’s clinic showed positive results; 22 were no longer gender-dysphoric, meaning they were comfortable living as girls. But that doesn’t mean they were happy. I spoke to the mother of one Zucker patient in her late 20s, who said her daughter was repulsed by the thought of a sex change but was still suffering—she’d become an alcoholic, and was cutting herself. “I’d be surprised if she outlived me,” her mother said.”

      This is a Success??. And in that particular experiment, over 40% of the patients didn’t meet the diagnostic criteria for Transsexuality beforehand anyway! No wonder they didn’t afterwards as well.

      Other reported “successes” – Dr Money’s “John/Joan” case, the archetypical success story you’ll find in older textbooks. Except that “John/Joan” – David Reimer – rejected his surgical assignment as female from age 12, despite extensive brainwashing, and later suicided. Then there’s the other famous “success”, Dr Reckers’ poster-child “Kraig” – Kirk Murphy – a case still in current textbooks – who also suicided shortly thereafter.

      • Kristjan permalink
        August 6, 2014 7:10 pm

        How were these things 60 years prior.

      • April 28, 2015 2:32 am

        I’m curious as to kristjan’s inquiry: how were these things 60 years prior?

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      • April 28, 2015 4:35 am

        Crossdressing by men is fairly common throughout history and in many cultures. Before 1940 Men who had sex with men came in two groups: fairies who were distinguished by flamboyant clothing and the trade, men who considered themselves straight but used fairies.
        As for SRS, the techniques weren’t fully developed until the 1940’s and then used to repair birth defects. After WWII the trade dried up as the trade was labeled homosexual and MSM began to have sex with one another. Since both wanted masculine men the opportunities for a feminine man also dried up. If a highly feminine or unmasculine man wanted a masculine partner, he might decide that becoming a very attractive imitation woman would attract a straight man. This is also the cause of the STD/AIDS epidemic.MSM formed a pool that spread disease.

      • zoebrain permalink
        April 28, 2015 7:05 am

        In a Western Civilisation context, if you go really far back – you go to the Gallae.

        Dale’s reply reminds me of a 1950’s textbook which described a “female attracted non cross-dressing transvestite homosexual”. Or as we’d say now, a Lesbian Trans woman who is one of the 20% that don’t use coping behaviours before transition.

        When you confuse Transsexuality with “Transvestite Homosexuality”, you end up with such bizarre descriptions – a homosexual man (by definition) who is only attracted to women, and a transvestite man (by definition) who doesn’t wear female attire.

        Regarding Intersex and Trans issues – here’s a description of one such case of either 5ARD or 17BHSD syndrome – probably the former. It typifies the individual and often remarkably tolerant treatment of the 14th to 19th centuries.

        “1719, London: One Katherine Jones is acquitted of bigamy at the Old Bailey, after testifying that her second – allegedly unlawful – husband “was no Man, and therefore could not be a Husband; that it was a Monster, a Hermaphrodite, and had been shown as such at Southwark Fair, Smithfield, and several other Places; and called several Witnesses to prove the same; one whereof deposed, that he knew the Mother of it, who brought it up as a Girl in Apparel and at School, and to handle the Needle, till it was 12 Years old, when he turn’d Man and went to sea.”

        Such a natural sex change from female to male is the hallmark of 5ARD and 17BHSD.

        Getting back to the topic – the first scientific research started in 1919 in Germany in the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft. The first genital reconstruction as a treatment for Transsexuality was in 1930, with a tragically unsuccessful attempt to transplant a complete female reproductive system in 1931. Before then, female to male reconstruction was performed in Philadelphia on Dr Alan Hart (born Alberta Lucille Hart). The surgery was a success, and after a life outside the limelight, he died in 1962.

        In 1933, when the Nazis came to power, the Institut archives were burnt, the patients hunted down. Trans people went to extermination camps, Intersex people were euthenased or vivisected. Some researchers lived in exile, others were killed by torture or suicided to avoid that

        By the end of the 30s, a few dozen genital reconstructions had been performed, plus more for Intersex patients. These continued post-war, with such (in)famous cases as Christine Jorgenson in 1952.

        Harry Benjamin started research on the issue in 1938. writing what is still considered a good text on the subject “The Transsexual Phenomenon” in 1966.

        In 1956, Georges Birou started the first modern non-experimental clinic, treating about 100 patients per year.

        This was something of a desperation measure initially. Everything else had been tried with no good result, Despite the primitive nature of these early surgeries, and large numbers of poor surgical results, there was an 80% improvement.

      • zoebrain permalink
        April 28, 2015 7:54 am

        Some of the alternate treatments mentioned in the literature of the time included Lobotomy, Leucotomy, Aversion Therapy using CSS (contingent skin shock – electrodes attached to eyeballs and genitals), psychotropic drugs, nausea-inducing drugs, beatings, castration, electro-convulsive therapy, cognitive therapy, psycho-analysis, gestalt therapy, even exorcism.

        See
        Arch Sex Behav. 1977 Sep;6(5):387-95.
        Gender identity change in a transsexual: an exorcism.
        Barlow DH, Abel GG, Blanchard EB.

        Br J Psychiatry. 1969 Sep;115(526):1101.
        Aversion therapy for homosexual impulses.
        Stern RS.

        The electrodes were partly effective in the short term, and electrical burns relatively mild and usually easily treated, but had no therapeutic effect after five years. Patients had an unfortunate tendency to suicide rather than have the treatment repeated (See Gelder & Marks etc)

    • susannunes permalink
      April 4, 2014 7:21 pm

      Exactly. I am so sick of their delusions and their attempt to make black as white, up as down, and so forth.

      They are in serious need of psychological help. GRS should NEVER, EVER be allowed on physically normal bodies. It should actually be illegal except in the very rare cases of people who have physical deformities with their sex organs.

      I find the notion of “male” and “female” brains completely and totally offensive and dishonest to boot. Normal people do not mutilate their bodies to conform to a sex stereotype. It should not be regarded as normal but as the mental illness that it is.

      • zoebrain permalink
        April 6, 2014 3:01 am

        I find the notion of “male” and “female” brains completely and totally offensive and dishonest to boot.

        Reality doesn’t care about your feelings.

        Yes, “male brain” and “female brain” are gross over-simplifications, like “male height” or “female height”. Yet men tend to be taller than women, and it’s neither offensive nor dishonest to say that.

  10. HeyThere permalink
    October 30, 2013 10:49 am

    Zoebeain You said something extremally unaccurate. Women with xy chromosomes cannot have children, for the simple reason that in order to develop ovaries an embryo needs to have 2 x chromosomes and no y chromosomes. Women with xy chromosomes are usually people with androgen insesitivity syndrome, and do not have ovaries but testicles, or women woth sweyer syndrome, so uterus and falloppian tubes with undifferentiated gonads. There is not such a thing as a mother with xy chromosome. You want to deny the reality of bilogy to make yourself feel more “normal”, but you do not understand that this is being in denial. I am happy I was not born transexual, bust be an horrbile thing to feel this way, and have to go throught those awefull and painfull mutilating operations. Being transexuals has nothing to do with being intersex (at least most of the times). You should stop being so much in denial. People cannot simply pass from a sex to the other, I totally disagree with that. A trasexual woman will never be a real woman, she will have the skeleton structure of a male, she will never have reaL female externam genitalia (removing penis and testicle and creating a hole doesn’t make it a vulva), and will never have internal female reproductive organs (one could argue that many women have been hysterectomized, but it is very different to have your uterus took out and not to have had ever a uterus because you are a male). My point is, I totally agree with this article, people sshould have the right to do through these transitiosn if they want, but being in the denial of really passing from a sex to the other is imply wrong, as it is a total deial of reality.

    • October 30, 2013 10:40 pm

      J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2008 Jan;93(1):182-9

      A 46,XY mother who developed as a normal woman underwent spontaneous puberty, reached menarche, menstruated regularly, experienced two unassisted pregnancies, and gave birth to a 46,XY daughter with complete gonadal dysgenesis.

      • HeyThere permalink
        February 27, 2014 2:40 am

        Thats simply impossible. Y chromosomes has a gene that maes the undeffirentiated gonad into a testicle, or in case of people with sweyer syndrome there is not this gene and the gonad stays undifferentiated. Only women with xx chromosomes can have functional ovaries. Women with only one x chromosomes cannot either as they have the sio called turner syndrome, and unless they don’t have the mosaic form (some cells of the bodies are actually normal 46xx, they cannot concive naturally as they cannot produce an egg. I don’t know where you read this bullshit of the xy mother but this is simply impossible from a biological point of view. Anyway, you transexuals need to stop comparing yourself with intersexed people, you have nothing in common with them, you wish you had CAIS but guess what, wmen with CAIS hate to be copared to transexuals. I have a CAIS friend, and you will never look or sound like her, no even with all the surgeries and oestrogens of the world

      • February 27, 2014 5:46 am

        :” I don’t know where you read this bullshit of the xy mother but this is simply impossible from a biological point of view.”

        The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism. 2008 Jan;93(1):182-9

        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2190741/

        Oh and by the way – I have the 3BHSD form of CAH. I was originally misdiagnosed in 1985 with PAIS.

  11. Joshua Mirstan permalink
    May 5, 2014 10:29 am

    Good points, thanks for writing this. Often times, a good shot of Haldol or similar antipsychotic medication are utilized for these sorts of delusional behaviors. Perhaps if we expand our treatments, these modernized fallacious thoughts will be abandoned and eradicated.

  12. May 5, 2014 7:06 pm

    You would think an educated person might construct a less facile argument.

  13. May 15, 2014 4:22 pm

    It doesn’t matter if you “feel” like the opposite sex. The fact of the matter is, you don’t know what “feeling like the opposite sex” is. This is how I “feel” like a woman: 1 menstrual cramps 2 discharge from the vagina 3 emotional cycle areoind ons time every month of every year 4 the scratch of the IUD string on my cervix 5 the feel of a man’s penis thrusting up against the walls of my vagina 6 the feel of my vaginal muscles grabbing onto the penis during sexual intercourse 7 the feeling of my breasts becoming engorged when I become pregnant 8 the weight of the child I feel for nine months inside my body 9 the baby’s feet kicking inside my uterus 10 the stretch marks, baby pouch, and incontinence that I deal with after bringing my beautiful baby boys into the world 11 looking in the mirror and seeing my skin sag and my breasts sag and my legs turning to cottage cheese as I get older 12 my voice getting deeper and growing a little hair on my face, and going through hot flashes, I enter menopause 13 the feeling of my vagina burning as I beg the nurse practitioner to cure an infection in my vagina 14 going in for a mammogram and wondering if I’ll be able to keep my breasts 15 experiencing the joy of raising little boys who have no idea of all the pain and suffering I endured to create them and to prevent their perfect little penises from being mutilated 16 the complete and utter ssacrifice of oneself that every mother goes through to raise her family.

    • joy permalink
      January 7, 2015 7:11 pm

      From the horses mouth. Not much arguing with this. I am concerned with WHY one cannot simply express themselves in whatever way they desire and not such a narrow way as wearing dresses and lipsticks if born with a penis or no skirts or dresses if born without a penis. (So long as it doesnt harm anyone or invade other’s rights) WHY is painful mutilation a must in order to feel fullfilled and complete? Love completes us. Service fullfills us. That such pain and drastic undertakings are necessary to be fullfilled speaks more to a mental issue IMO. There seems to be a deep contradiction going on, that society’s view on gender is too narrow yet isn’t the “if I cannot have a simulated vagina and breasts I will never be happy” the ULTIMATE in one squeezing oneself into a box?

  14. JennyLee permalink
    August 11, 2014 3:29 am

    wtf I thought they were females trapped in male bodies, why do they need to learn how female act? lol
    the transsexual delusion

    • zoebrain permalink
      April 28, 2015 6:12 am

      Why are there deportment schools?
      The answer is the same, except for one area. Girls who aren’t sufficiently “ladylike” generally don’t face the risk of being beaten to a pulp for that. Unless they’re Trans.

    • Kelli permalink
      May 8, 2015 7:23 am

      who teaches natural born women deportment? Used to be schools for that too.

  15. disenchantedscholar permalink
    February 8, 2015 8:42 pm

    Reblogged this on Philosophies of a Disenchanted Scholar.

  16. May 19, 2015 5:48 pm

    Perhaps this author is a personal expert on Narcissitc delusions. Lacks a lot of thought.

    • May 30, 2015 4:13 pm

      The idea that trans persons are narcissistic was suggested to me by Anne Lawrence a MtF trans person. Anne Lawrence (2008) “Shame and Narcissistic Rage in Autogynephilic Transsexualism,” Archives of Sexual Behavior, 37: 457-461

  17. Shaun Reim permalink
    May 28, 2015 3:00 am

    A few thoughts:

    First, why transsexuals? If they do suffer from a delusion, as you claim, how is it harmful, and why is it so irksome to you? Why not worry about more harmful delusions first, such as the delusion that God exists. While one so-called “delusion” results in a handful of small social problems (discrimination, divorce, moderate debt), the other has resulted in thousands of years of war, genocide, and an attitude that our planet is a temporary layover. Although there is a long-list of studies showing that the brains of transsexuals are different, there is not one study that provides the existence of God. Not one. So again, why transsexuals?

    Second, what makes transsexual surgery different from other forms of plastic surgery? Many women cannot accept their breast size. Many people cannot accept the shape or girth of their bodies, the apparent age of their face, or the shape of their nose. These people routinely seek plastic surgery as a remedy. Still others wear wigs, weaves and extensions to change the appearance of their hair. Are these people deluded, or mutilating the body God gave them? You might argue that transsexual surgery is unique in that it renders the patient infertile. I have to ask, so what? Many transpeople have kids prior to surgery or bank sperm. And for those who never have children? Good. The world is overpopulated as it is. We should commend them. Also, are infertile people somehow illegitimate in your eyes?

    Third, I didn’t hear an argument against performing genital reconstruction surgery on infants who are born with ambiguous genitalia (rendering many infertile). Nor did I hear an argument against genital reconstruction surgery performed on women born without a vagina. Apparently, sometimes it ok to perform these surgeries, and sometimes it’s not. Sometimes it good to accept your body, and sometimes it’s not. How do you make that determination? And as for those with, say, an XY genotype who “pass” as women being deceptive, what about babies born with androgen insensitivity syndrome? They are born with XY genotype, a vagina, clitoris, internal testes, and no ovaries or uterus. Usually, their testicles are removed during adolescence. The bodies of women with AIS are virtually the same as those of MTF transsexual. Should they be branded “male” and be forced to use the men’s bathroom to avoid deception? If not, why not? What makes them different?

    I think you’re picking on transsexual people, which strikes me as odd. You might consider attacking ALL delusions, or attacking ALL surgery seekers, or attacking ALL people who don’t fit your strict views of the male/female dichotomy. Why transsexuals? Did the sight of a transwoman in your restroom annoy you one time? Did a transman eat your slice of cake at the office party? I don’t get it.

    • May 30, 2015 4:05 pm

      Those who pretend to have changed sex demand that others join in the pretense. I will not lie. I will not pretend a man a woman.
      You mention children born with disorders of sexual development. Grown-up subjects of such surgery are lobbying against any form of cosmetic surgery on children with DSD. The doctors are realizing that this may not be the best course of action.
      Personally, I am opposed for vanity cosmetic surgery, as opposed to that to remedy defects, but people who have such procedures don’t ask me to lie.

  18. Tristan permalink
    July 12, 2015 5:14 am

    What about the scientific evidence of white brain matter found in transexuals??? Have you done all your homework before posting this???

    • July 12, 2015 7:19 pm

      Send me the link to the study. Brains are changed by behavior. I see no evidence that men who think they have female brains think like women.

      • zoebrain permalink
        July 13, 2015 2:54 am

        Links sent – awaiting your moderation.

  19. August 2, 2015 9:23 pm

    Dr. Paul McHugh says homosexuality is a choice so I can’t respect his opinion.Homosexuals do not choose to be attracted to the same sex.The only choice is to act on sexual desires or not like heterosexuals.

    • August 2, 2015 11:16 pm

      Same-sex attraction is not a choice, nor is a person born that way. Acts are chosen, but without healing the desire may be difficult to resist.

      • December 26, 2018 2:31 pm

        There is nothing to heal from! homosexuality is just another form of sexuality and it is totally FINE between consenting adults! There is no problem or issue.Find something useful to do with your time!

  20. kaddi permalink
    August 3, 2015 5:10 pm

    I agree with most of this article. I recently read some articles on human genetic memory studies. Studies were conducted on mice teaching them to be fearful of a rose scent….generations later studies showed some of the mice were fearful of the smell… because it had been passed down to them Obviously genetically through memory. The articles pointed out the same may be true for many fears people live with. Such as fear of heights, spiders, small confined spaces, ect. For some, these fears may have been related to a experience a ancestor had and passed down like a small part of a memory chip leaving the descendant fearful, but not knowing why! Also, human genetic memory explains the brain kids that know how to play a musical instrument without having a lesson, babies talking full sentences as young as 6 months, reading books before being taught to read, speaking foreign languages they were not taught, ect. These wiz kids get a head start by being fortunate to inherit memory passed down genetically. I do believe it is possible a male may have the memory of a great great grandmother that loved being a woman, feminine, sensual, ect…and like those with phobia’s does not know where this ‘real’ feeling comes from ….and confused within.

  21. September 14, 2015 2:28 am

    It helps me a lot

  22. Jill Rosa permalink
    February 13, 2016 11:26 am

    Paul McHugh

    University Distinguished Professor of Psychiatry at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine

    — Former member of the United State Conference of Catholic Bishop’s National Review Board

    Facts

    — Refers to homosexuality as “erroneous desire”

    — Argues that being medically accomodating to a transgender child is “like performing liposuction on an anorexic child”

    — Filed an amicus brief arguing in favor of Proposition 8 on the basis that homosexuality is a “choice.”

    –Describes post surgical trans women as “caricatures of women”

    — As part of the USCCB’s Review Board, pushed the idea that the Catholic sex abuse scandal was not about pedophilia but about “homosexual predation on American Catholic youth.”

  23. David permalink
    May 13, 2016 1:12 pm

    Thisnisba disgustingly bigoted article, and TRANSGENDERED organ donors have been observed to bear frontal lobes consistant with the size associated to the opposite gender.

    We see with hermaphrodites that gender can be mixed up biologically, this article is just a flimsy stab at the transgenderd community. Do you understand the amount of pain and loss a transgendered individual goes through to bring peace to their gender identity? Who would want that!!!? This is just as bad as saying homosexuality is a choice or learned behavior.

    • May 13, 2016 1:49 pm

      Hermaphrodite is an out of date term. Persons with physical disorders of sexual development have nothing in common with physically normal men and women who envy the other sex and imagine that being the other sex will solve their problems. They may get a thrill from ‘passing’ but eventually they realize that in spite of all they have sacrificed they can never really become the other sex. This can explain why 41 % of ‘transgender’ admit having attempted suicide. They have suffered because they desire what is impossible. True concern for them requires speaking the truth, telling them that peace comes only from accepting what they can’t change.
      Same-sex attraction is a preventable and treatable psychological disorder, a possible result of an early attachment disorder.

      • zoebrain permalink
        May 14, 2016 1:39 am

        “Persons with physical disorders of sexual development have nothing in common with physically normal men and women who envy the other sex and imagine that being the other sex will solve their problems. ”

        True. But Transgender people aren’t “physically normal men and women who envy the other sex and imagine that being the other sex will solve their problems. ”

        Male–to–female transsexuals have female neuron numbers in a limbic nucleus. Kruiver et al J Clin Endocrinol Metab (2000) 85:2034–2041
        The present findings of somatostatin neuronal sex differences in the BSTc and its sex reversal in the transsexual brain clearly support the paradigm that in transsexuals sexual differentiation of the brain and genitals may go into opposite directions

  24. November 6, 2016 8:28 pm

    Good to see someone unafraid to tell it like it is instead of telling it like society wants it to be told. Male is male and female is female, just as black is black and white is white, dog is dog and cat is cat, and human is human and God is God.

  25. LeeKW permalink
    May 25, 2017 1:08 pm

    When i was working for an agency once on night shift there was a man there who had been transexual and afterwords had total regret after the surgeons had altered him so he went back to being a man. He said when he went back to doctors they would have nothing more to do with him and told him the operation was a one way trip. He was a bit upset I think because he said that doctors were happy to do surgery to make women have genitals like men but would not reverse the process for him.
    He was a fairly big bloke who by the end of the shift often looked a bit whiskery so I was curious why his doctors had no interest in reversing the process.

  26. May 1, 2013 3:30 pm

    I translated(by google) the article referenced from the French and found an analysis of myself, which proves my point — namely that gender feminists do not respect women like myself, who after receiving a first class education choose to make motherhood their primary vocation, and in my case become an activist in my spare time. I don’t as the writer implies want to force any other woman to make that choice, but to have the choice of motherhood as a woman’s primary vocation supported and honored as much as any other career choice.

  27. zoebrain permalink
    May 18, 2013 9:26 am

    Just a plea to release some of my comments from the moderation queue. Thanks.

  28. Kim permalink
    May 18, 2013 12:19 pm

    Special rights, no. The rights to exist? The right to not be humiliated on tabloid television and in print? The right to not be assaulted and killed for being different? How about those rights which are currently denied? Your comments are based upon that of a man who has read books and based upon the conjecture of one who lacks all of the information. You are drawing conclusions based on feelings.

    George in Myakka things its wonderful that we reproduce in ways so we cannot reproduce. We are not the product of defective genes that can be passed to offspring, but are the byproduct of prenatal environmental poisoning that resulted in a genetic anomaly. Other genetic anomalies that are caused by neonatal poisonings cause physical abnormalities of a different sort such as missing limbs, fingers or retardation. Those individuals are accorded medical assistance and are not subjected to abuse and isolation. We are.

    You see Roman, it is not a matter that we feel that we are different. We are different. Either by a random DNA hiccup, or by environmental genetic manipulation at a prenatal level we had our physical bodies manipulated. It was subtle, but still detectable. Dale states that very few of us are actually transsexual. I don’t know what nonsensical data he got that from as he didn’t bother citing his sources. I lecture on this topic and research my facts very thoroughly. From time to time I am met with someone who tries to heckle me with the same arguments that Dale posted. Colleagues of mine have informed me that they are part of a gay/lesbian movement who are out to destroy the transsexual medical condition message because it is a barrier to their well invested social agenda. They don’t speak for the gay/lesbian movement as a whole, but they have published non-factual bias materials that Dale’s argument seems to be based upon.

    I challenge you to do your own research with an open mind and let it lead you to the facts. Look for articles on transgender limbic system, diethylstilbestrol and its affect on transgender, DDT and androgen blockers, transgender pheromone responses and if that sparks your curiosity, keep reading.

    You see Roman, we just want the right to be treated as first rate human beings who were born with a medical condition, not second class circus freaks who can be legally discriminated against.

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